RELEVANT GROUPS
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"First They Came For..."
"BDSM is Safe - BDSM is not Abuse"
"I am for a Free Second Life"
"National Coalition for Sexual Freedom"
FORUMS & DISCUSSION BOARDS
SL Insider
SL Forum
SL Universe
Talk SL
SL Drama
Yet Another SL Forum
SL Homepage
SL Herald
Stratics
Gamespot
RCE Universe
SL Educators
VOICE-ALTERING SOFTWARE
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COPYRIGHT ISSUES
Sep 15 2009 -- SL Sued for Allowing Sale of Imposter Goods -- mediapost
Sep 15 2009 -- Eros vs Linden, Complete Class Action Complaint -- Second Life Herald
BROADLY OFFENSIVE CONTENT
"First They
Came For..." -- Wikipedia
May 31 2007 -- Keeping
SL "Safe", Rape / Graphic Violence, Broadly Offensive Content --
Daniel Linden
June 7 2007 -- Interview
with Precursor, Comments -- Second Life Herald
June 6 2007 -- Conversation
with Robin Linden, Comments -- United Protest
June 2 2007 -- Home
page Hypocrisy -- PixelPulse
June 1 2007 -- Our
World Our Rules, Huge Links List to Related Articles -- SecondLifeInsider
June 1 2007 -- Spy
Thy Neighbor -- Metaverse
June 4 2007 -- Seven
Little Words, Policy
change, Families de France, American Civil Liberties Union, National Coalition
for Sexual Freedom -- Broccoli Curry
June 2007? -- Blurring
the Boundaries, Real Laws & Virtual Worlds, German TV report -- AJDown
May 31 2007 -- List
of Thought Crimes, Comments - PixelPulse
May 31 2007 -- Keeping
SL "Safe", Rape / Graphic Violence, Broadly Offensive Content --
Daniel Linden
SEXUAL-AGEPLAY ISSUE
Explanation/Definition of
Non-Sexual Ageplay and Sexual Ageplay -- Wikipedia
May 22 2007 -- Child
Avatars no longer findable for Non-Sexual Ageplay (see comments) --
PixelPulse
May 13 2007 -- Translation
of the Misleading German TV Report -- PixelPulse
May 10 2007 -- Child
Pornography Investigation -- ZDNet
May 9 2007 -- Accusations
re Child Pornography -- Robin Linden
May
2007: Editor's note: Ageplay is now a blocked term in all SL Search
categories, even though nonsexual ageplay is not at issue. The
term "ageplay" has also been blocked for searching the blog of official
SL announcements, so such a search comes up zero even though there are
SL announcements in existence specifically about ageplay.
April 12 2006 -- Phony
Kids, Virtual Sex -- CNET
March 8 2007 -- State
Your Adult Age, & Don't Openly Promote (sexual? or even nonsexual?
unclear) -- Duncan Rust, roleplayer
Explanation/Definition of
Non-Sexual Ageplay and Sexual Ageplay -- Wikipedia
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SL has always required that explicit adult content be indoors only :
"In
Mature regions, Residents can be free to engage in more adult activity
and language, though of course, explicit adult content must be
contained behind 'closed doors'." -- source
webpage
LAND-PARCEL COURT CASE
June 1 2007 -- Judge
Rules against Terms of Service -- Gamasutra
May 31 2007 -- Second
Life in Court, Terms of Service ruled Unconscionable -- Broccoli Curry
COPYRIGHT and SECOND LIFE
OFFICIAL POSITIONS
April 15 2007 -- Video of
Daniel Linden, Comments -- SLCreativity (backup
link to video)
AGE & IDENTITY VERIFICATION
April 3 2008 -- Adult World Banned
from 3D Conference -- XBizSurvey of Visitors at the Bondage Ranch (this
survey occurred before the verification system was implemented)
June 4 2007 -- Sued
by Moralist Group -- SLPixelPost
May 27 2007 -- Verification
Details, Comments -- PixelPulse
May 17 2007 -- User-Generated
Censorship -- Metaverse
May 13 2007 -- Concerns
about Land Flagging -- PixelPost
May 12 2007 -- Verification
Roundup, Comments -- SecondLifeInsider
May 12 2007 -- Kidding
Ourselves?, Interesting Comments -- Information Week
May 10 2007 -- Further
Clarification -- Robin Linden
May 9 2007 -- Verification
Hits a Bump -- Reuters
May 9 2007 -- Debate
is Raging -- Progress & Freedom Foundation
May 7 2007 -- Identity
Thieves Celebrate -- Information Week
May 7 2007 -- More
on Identity Verification -- Daniel Linden
May 4 2007 -- LL
Lays Down Law, Roman Orgy Meets Sesame Street -- Clickable Culture
May 4 2007 -- Age
& Identity Verification -- Daniel Linden
PRIVACY
May 8 2007 -- Voice-Morphing
Sample Available -- PixelPulse
April 7 2007 -- TG
Residents Brace for Voice -- PixelPulse
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WRITINGS BY VARIOUS PERSONS
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[Statement from National Coalition for Sexual Freedom / from notecard, June 18
2007]
I
discussed the current confusion on Second Life about their policy
regarding BDSM with Daniel Linden on Tuesday. He confirmed that Second
Life's policies haven't changed, and they don't intend to police their
users or forbid BDSM communities within Second Life. The reason they
can't say what's allowed right now is that they're currently
researching international laws (since Second Life has a large
international presence) and he asked for NCSF's help with that. We have
a great deal of experience dealing with obscenity laws, particularly
here in the US with our challenge to obscenity laws on the Internet
which went to the Supreme Court. We also have contact with overseas
advocacy groups which have experience with other nations' obscenity
laws.
Second Life doesn't want to create a laundry list of
activities that are acceptable and those that aren't, which I agree
with. Instead we'll work with Second Life to help create an umbrella
policy similar to safe, sane and consensual, as applied to the
Internet. I will work directly with Second Life groups and lands who
have contacted NCSF to ensure that our suggestions are workable for
users. As an example of Internet ssc: ie, activities must be
consensual, in that you have to announce if sexual slavery or
kidnapping is allowed in your land, and avatars aren't ambushed in
other places or exposed to activities they haven't agreed to; safe, in
that you can remove your avatar if you change your mind; and sane, in
that people understand the difference between fantasy and reality, ie.
severe harm to an avatar is allowed in SL but not to a real life person.
Second Life intends for their users to be responsible for their own
content, however US law is extremely strict when it comes to portrayals
of child sex. Second Life must enforce "no sex with child-sized
avatars" because the US will prosecute them for it since their servers
are located here. Even though Second Lifers are engaging in age play
between consenting adults (which is legal), once you translate that
into any sort of text or images (even cartoony images or stick figures)
then that representation is considered to be child porn according to
Federal law. SL participants who don't like that will have to contact
their congressperson and senators to change US child porn laws.
International users must understand that there are certain laws that
Second Life must abide by, or the entire company can be shut down.
There are numerous examples of Internet companies and private websites
that have been closed because of these sorts of violations.
As I said, I will stay in close touch with Second Life users to ensure
that any suggestions that are made regarding policy are acceptable and
workable for you. Feel free to distribute this within Second Life.
Anyone with comments or suggestions can contact me directly and I will
make sure your concerns are heard.
Susan
Spokesperson
National Coalition for Sexual Freedom
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[To] Daniel, Robin:
To date I have been ignoring the rumblings about illegal activities,
verification and so on, despite seeing several friends bail out of SL
in response. Unfortunately, I just can't let this latest blog entry
slide by. It is rather vague as usual, but what it does say is quite
offensive to my moral values, and completely in contradiction of the
previous SL Community Standards. And contrary to the "safety"
mentioned, I have never felt like my time and adventures and
friendships in SL were more threatened.
I am sure you are getting lots of angry letters, and lots of
explanations for why this is a bad idea. I will therefore just say that
I have absolutely no intention of participating in this moral pogrom
against my fellow SL residents, no matter what my personal feelings
about their activities. I will not be deputized as your secret police
force, I will not spy on or inform against my neighbors, nor engage in
other intolerant behavior however sanctioned. I will not Abuse Report
any activities I do not find to clearly hurt others or interrupt their
ability to use SL. I intend instead to hold true to the spirit of
community standards which have been in place for the previous four
years.
I would make one recommendation if you intend to go forward with this
fundamental alteration of our SL community: Prosecute zealously against
any and all false and defamatory reports, and people found to be making
them should be immediately penalized with the same consequences as
those for the acts they accused others of. If you do not publicly
announce this policy and enforce it, the abuses of this new system will
surely destroy all that is good and free about this community you are
trying to keep "safe".
Sincerely,
Ananda Sandgrain
June 1 2007
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Excuse the rollercoaster language - english is not my mother tongue.
Second Life: your life or your imagination?
This note follows the well known post on the SL blog "Keeping Second Life Safe,
Together".
That post has a lot of weak spots, all well outlined in the comments
and following debate: the return of the moral majority, the call to
informers, the mighty pornbusters (a Linden team that "monitors such
notification 24-hours a day, seven-days a week"), the ridiculous claims
of rape in SL (impossible if not consensual), etc. But in my opinion
there is a more basic issue that the Linden are failing to address -
perhaps even to consider: their claim.
We all know that
there's a difference between life and imagination, and most of us can
deal very well with this difference: in our life we drive, in our
imagination we TP; in our life we struggle with clothing sizes, while
in our imagination everything fits perfectly. In our life many are
limited by social convention, peer pressure or personal limits, while
in our imagination we simply don't. The relationship between life and
imagination in a very interesting one, and we know that exercising our
imagination can affect, and sometimes enhance, our life: desire happens
right there, in the imagination.
When it come to sexual matters, of course this difference becomes even
more important. Our sexual life is shaped by our imagination, that in
turn is nourished by our experiences, by what we see and desire. Any
psychologist knows that in this realm there is a very important divide
between life and imagination. The perfect example is violence: it's a
well known fact that many people have fantasies involving violence;
it's also well known that most of these fantasies involve passive
violence, i.e. forced sex, losing control, being the victim. Many women
have these kind of fantasies, but none of them goes looking for non
consensual violence or rape. The difference between life and
imagination is very clear here.
If SL is our life then the Linden are right is prosecuting imaginary
rape, and i am all for that: i don't want rape in my life. But what if
SL is our imagination? Shouldn't we be free to imagine anything?
Second Life promised us to be both. It did so in a time where perhaps
the distinction could still be blurred. But today, as SL has reached
mass popularity, this issue is getting very visible - in the users
behavior. I see people's email signature with their Skype contact,
their cell phone number and their SL av name: many of us would never do
that - especially old timers. I met people who came to SL to support
their RL election candidate, to teach 3D classes or to work in their
office. Clearly for all these persons, SL is basically their life.
Obviously for a 6 foot blue furry fox the situation is reversed.
But we're all in SL, and we all should be free to do what we like -
protecting minors and non consenting adults. Many of us believe this,
and we hope the Linden will think hard about it. But the real issue
they should address (first with themselves), in my opinion, is this: is
Second Life your life or your imagination? It seems they're choosing
life, while we (most of the people i know in SL) definitely took the
imagination part far more seriously. We're justly concerned about our
SL experience, but the Linden should be far more: I think this issue is
central in the future of SL.
The revolution is US
SM Thibaud
June 5, 2007
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The Pen is Sharper than the Sword
Please remember:
You all have joined a protesting group to voice yourself for freedom of
expression, sexuality, respect, tolerance and freedom. First of all,
alone that action is sign of bravery, honor and dedication to a cause
many people in history have pledged their lives to, and keep doing so
this very minute, and probably many decades to come.
What we want to promote in the groups under "United Protest" (so far
being 'BDSM is Safe - BDSM is not Abuse'; 'I am for a FREE Second
Life'; 'The National Coalition for Sexual Freedom'; 'SecondVoices';
'Ladies in self bondage' and 'SL Society for Expressive Freedom') is a
PEACEFUL PROTEST.
A peaceful protest in our eyes means you can recruit as many people as
possible for the cause, you can express yourself by wearing items of
protest with preferrably /positive/ messages conveying our goal: SL
being a free environment for all residents no matter their personal
morals, values, sexual preferences and opinions. Also organizing events
that do not harm the SL grid in any way.
We know you are angry, and so are we. But anger will get us nowhere.
Anger is like hot coals you want to throw at someone: your hand gets
burned, and you miss because you're only hurting yourself (ofcourse
some you of get off on pain, or you have such a high painlimit it
barely hurts, but you get the picture :P).
With aggressive actions, you're not only hurting yourself because LL
may find you 'griefing' or 'offensive', you would also hurt the cause
by lowering credibility drastically.
As a group we need to make sure LindenLabs is willing to communicate.
For that we need credibility. Disruptive behaviour like going into
Linden Regions and 'grief', negative messages, and display of anger
will only decrease credibility, and with that the possibility to
communicate. We urge you to refrain from aggressive and disruptive
protest, and instead focus on opening communication and get into a
dialogue with LL in which they will take us seriously and value us. We
base our protest on arguments and voices, not sticks and stones.
We all consider ourselves responsible adults, let's make sure LL sees us as such, and will be happy to listen to us.
Again, thank you ALL so much for your support, courage to stand up, and
positive engagement. YOU make it happen. Keep up the good work!
~Jazhara
June 3, 2007
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I am for a Free Second Life
So you want to keep Second Life FREE as well? AWESOME!!
This poster is a protest to Linden Labs blogpost on May 31, that can be found here:
>>> http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/ <<<
(the text of this post is also included at the bottom of this note)
Already know what this is about? Scroll down to see what you can do to join the PEACEFUL protest.
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Don't know what this is all about? Read on:
Linden Labs seems to be forced in one or more ways to censor the
residents of Second Life. Censorship is for many people a reason to try
to escape Real Life, and live their fantasies in Second Life. And now
Second Life seems to become more than an extension of Real Life. It's
becoming the same as Real Life through censorship, and thus remains no
reason for MANY residents to log on anymore, since they can't do what
they want anymore.
Linden Labs has put the "BAD" label on ageplay, bestiality, violence,
explicit sex and other "broadly offensive content", and is asking it's
residents to Abuse Report anything that could be perceived as being
"offensive".
Since we all have different morals, values and standards, this means
eventually ANYONE is subject to investigation, censorship and possible
removal from Second Life. By asking it's residents to file Abuse
Reports on "offensive" content, Linden Labs is turning into Big
Brother. Remember the book/movie 1984? Remember Germany between 1939
and 1945? Residents with values and morals that differ from a so-called
"majority" are getting labeled by moralknights that find that /their/
values and morals should count for the whole world.
RESPECT, TOLERANCE AND FREEDOM are key to a happy life, be it Real Life
or Second Life. Real Life, for many of Second Life's residents, doesn't
offer that and is for them a reason to be in Second Life. And now
Second life seems to turn into an even worse environment. When will it
stop? When can you and I live the life we want to without being judged,
critisized and expelled?
But that's not all...
Not only will this affect YOU, it will also effect SL as a whole. Many
content creators already stopped building content for Second Life. Not
only are creators of explicit content that is "potentially offensive"
threatened with a ban, ALL content creators are endangered with loss of
income because Second Life's popularity will drop drastically as soon
as "explicit content" will be censored. Eventually, this can and will
lead to poor content in Second Life, islands will be closed off or
cancelled, and it wouldn't be strange if the mainland would decrease in
size as well, since people don't feel free to act like they want, do as
they want, think like they want, make what they want and BE who they
want!
You may not approve of ageplay, rape, bestiality, explicit violence and
other 'offensive' fantasies that one can live here in Second Life. And
that's fine, we all have our likes and dislikes. You won't see me
playing with a child avatar, or roleplaying a dog pleasuring me, nor
will I shoot one through the head for fun. That doesn't mean others
can't in this VIRTUAL world. How long will it take before censorship
effects YOU? This protest is not to stand up for Real Life pedophiles,
rapists, violent abusers and serial killers. In Real Life those are all
actions that happen NON-CONSENSUALLY. In Second Life, these acts happen
between responsible, CONSENTING adults, and 90% of the time even in
complete privacy, and the other 10% in regions that are designed to
live those fantasies CONSENSUALLY. (How the hell can one actually rape
someone in SL anyway? lmfao!)
Linden Labs wants Second Life to be Safe. Well...
Dear Linden Labs, Second Life is as safe as it gets. One has to be an
adult to be a resident here, and be responsible as one. It is not your
job to take on responsibility for our actions. We all have the power to
choose and we can very much decide to consent or not. We don't need you
to babysit us like children. We need you to provide a free world where
we can all be who and whatever we want to be and do what we like to do,
just like you promised us with your slogans and commercials. We love
the world you provide, please, dear Linden Labs, keep it like that.
To quote Benjamin Franklin: "one who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither"
You get the point, and this rant has been long enough...
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For reference, this is what Linden Labs posted recently on their blog:
Keeping Second Life Safe, Together
The diversity of things to see and do within Second Life is almost
unimaginable, but our community has made it clear to us that certain
types of content and activity are simply not acceptable in any form.
Real-life images, avatar portrayals, and other depiction of sexual or
lewd acts involving or appearing to involve children or minors;
real-life images, avatar portrayals, and other depictions of sexual
violence including rape, real-life images, avatar portrayals, and other
depictions of extreme or graphic violence, and other broadly offensive
content are never allowed or tolerated within Second Life.
Please help us to keep Second Life a safe and welcoming space by
continuing to notify Linden Lab about locations in-world that are
violating our Community Standards regarding broadly offensive and
potentially illegal content. Our team monitors such notification
24-hours a day, seven-days a week. Individuals and groups promoting or
providing such content and activities will be swiftly met with a
variety of sanctions, including termination of accounts, closure of
groups, removal of content, and loss of land. It’s up to all of
us to make sure Second Life remains a safe and welcoming haven of
creativity and social vision.
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-- Jazhara Keon
June 1, 2007
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From Death of (BDSM) SL
"Broadly Offensive" material, the death of SL?
As many of you know Linden Labs released a blog recently describing a crack down on various issues within second life.
In it they briefly describe things as Broadly offensive. Focusing their
attention on the sexual content within second life. What is the problem
with two adults of or over the age of consent within their respective
country exploring -consensual sexual role play- that is not in any way
shape or form illegal in nature according to the laws of the land of
where Linden Labs (hence forth referred to as LL) is located?
Some people make the
argument that they should not be exposed to such activities. That they
find such offensive, lewd, and generally unacceptable. The beauty of
second life though (at least for now) is the power of choice. If person
A finds person B offensive, or acting in what they find an offensive
manner they can choose to "mute" said person. Or they can teleport away
from said person(s). Worse case scenario they can log out of second
life for a brief moment and wait for that person to go away before
logging back in. Truly there's no reason for anyone to stay near
anything they find offensive in second life.
Rather what LL has created is a new form of griefing. People
purposefully seeking out things that they find offensive and harassing
those that were otherwise not bothering them. Already today I have been
approached by three separate people threatening me against three
separate issues. All of which a direct result of this blog entry. The
first one was a person who went out of their way to seek me out about a
consensual role playing group that I am involved with. The key word
there is consensual, no one is forced to join the group, no one is
forced to participate, and everyone is, to my knowledge of consenting
age and all of their avatars represent consenting age or older as well.
Another person harassed me today about the BDSM / D/s lifestyle and its
immoralities. As well as my choice to prefer the company of my own
gender. LL What you have done is created a giant witch hunt, where now
you have opened the flood gates to allow harassment of people that were
not in any way affecting these extreme conservatives.
You also
describe "extreme or graphic violence". Alright then, let's continue
our crack down then. You want to make "Second Life safe". Sure alright,
then you will need to start banning everything that makes Second Life a
success right now. You will need to ban all "furry" style avatars (of
which you even now have a default furry avatar) as they could be found
offensive in that they can be viewed as bestiality.
You will need to ban all weapons in second life. You couldn't have swords, knives,
grenades, tanks, guns, warplanes, starships, laser guns, etc etc etc, without violence, or graphic violence.
May as well crack down on everyone that enjoys the BDSM or Gorean lifestyles as well.
Can't possibly have that in here either.
On top of that you should also ban all sexual activities as well. Close
all strip clubs, dance clubs, and all stores and shops featuring sexual
content like pose shops, beds, sex play items so on and so forth. That
could be found offensive.
Whereas I fully agree that real life imagery of "sexual violence" and
"graphic violence" should not be allowed in Second Life, I see nothing
wrong with such things within an avatar, with as I stated above you
have the choice not to be around such things.
I realise that LL will not actually read this nor will they actually
read anything that the majority of the responders to the blog entry
said. Yet I can hope can't I? Sexuality in second life is a key
component to it where people can safely explore fantasies in a fantasy
world and digital realm, with out harming anyone in the real world.
Sexual content is in just about everything everywhere in second life.
From the clothing that people wear, to the items that a vast majority
buy.
Take this away and you will lose your second life.
Onyx Syakumi said it better than I on the 16th response to the blog entry
I encourage you to read it.
Naomi
June 2, 2007
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From "Death of BDSM SL"
I think it would be worth asking: what constitutes “other broadly offensive content?”
You are making some very dangerous assumptions that what the majority
deems unacceptable is always fair — this is why (at least in the
United States) we have a Supreme Court. It is important to defend the
rights of the minority from the ignorance of the majority.
If it were the consensus of Second Life users to ban homosexuality, what would the opinion of Linden Labs be?
If it were the consensus of Second Life users that graphic violence was acceptable so long as it was directed against a
homosexual, what would the opinion of Linden Labs be?
What would happen if white supremacists suddenly began using Second
Life as a haven, thereby tipping the majority opinion in favor of
banning avatars that appear as other races?
These are extreme examples that I hope would never come to pass, but
such a decree as the one you have made that “majority rules, no
matter what” begs that the questions be asked and answered. While
no one may cry that the child pornographers and rape fantasizers are
vanishing today, what will happen when the unopposed Morality Police
grows fangs tomorrow?
How long will it be before any sort of “inappropriate”
sexual activity is outlawed by Second Life? Will we see a ban on
expressions of sodomy? Sexual activity outside of wedlock? Will it
become illegal for “partnerships” to be declared in Second
Life between two avatars of the same gender? Will furries be outlawed
as “bestiality” when in reality they are promoting nothing
of the sort?
What happens if two people are in private, inaccessible land and an
opportunistic voyeur disables their camera constraints, zooms into
their private home and spies on them consensually participating in some
“unaccaptable” activity that they have by all rights taken
every precaution to hide from the public eye so as not to violate the
“rules?” Will they, too, be tracked down, have their land
seized, and be burned at the stake?
You need to be very, very careful about how you proceed with this, LL.
You’re starting to venture out onto the slipperiest slope of all
and swinging the axe of moderation on the internet … a place
known and loved for its uninfringed freedom of speech and expression.
-Onyx Syakumi
June 2, 2007
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Exercpts from a conversation
with Robin Linden, June 5, 2007:
[11:21] Robin Linden: I can't speak in generalities. We have not found any reason to ban Goreans or BDSM.
[11:22]
Jazhara Keon: Goreans and BDSM include forced scenes, explicit violence
and sexuality.. all points that have been explicitly mentioned in last
bpost being FORBIDDEN, as where it first was to be in areas rated
(M)ature...
[11:22] Summer Seale: agreed. jazhara is hitting th enail on the head.
[11:22] Ravena DeCuir: robin would it be possibl #e to cordinate all these questions through you
[11:23] Summer Seale: and, quite frankly, some of us want to know
*before* we get banned for something that was 'okay' one day, and 'not
okay' the next.
[11:23] Robin Linden: No, but I'll get you a place to ask your questions.
[11:33] Robin Linden: We have tried to create a world where everyone
takes responsibility for their own actions, within some broadly stated
guidelines called the communitiy standards.
[11:33] Robin Linden: We've relied on the Residents to let us know when those standards are violated.
[11:34] Robin Linden: Nevertheless, as we've grown and as we've spread
out across the globe in RL, there are different sensibilities that we
face in different places.
[11:34] Robin Linden: This is a new situation for us, and one we have to navigate through.
[11:34] Robin Linden: We would like to maintain our approach where the
community lets us know when they believe the community standards have
been violated.
[11:34] Robin Linden: Hence the reminder to use the reporting system.
[11:35] Nobody Fugazi: Query: If someone AR's me for being broadly offensive, am I informed and do I have rights?
[11:35] Astarte Artaud: But we never know what action is taken half the time
[11:35] Jessica Holyoke watches Robin's hands
[11:35] Robin Linden: That said, we may find there are times when
behaviors that we have allowed in the past, e.g. ageplay, are viewed
strongly enough by some jurisdictions that we have to decide, for the
sake of the business
[11:35] Sarah Nerd: It would just be easier if the community standards
were a bit more clear, and we didnt have to test the waters to learn
whats acceotable and what wasnt
[11:35] Robin Linden: that we aren't going to allow them any more.
[11:35] Bella Wilberg: how many AR's are needed to even be looked at?
[11:35] Jessica Holyoke: I don't think she's done yet
[11:35] Robin Linden: I doubt very much that ageplay is the last behavior that will come under this scrutiny.
[11:36] Tao Takashi: maybe it's really not so much the question of what
is bad but what happens after you have been reported
[11:36] Lewis Nerd: i think the basic question is this: does daniel's
post change what is acceptable, or was it just badly worded?
[11:36] Robin Linden: What Daniel said in his post is that we have
standards, we have a reporting system, and we need to work together to
try to maintain those standards.
[11:39] Robin Linden: The reason I can't say that this or that
activity, or slant on BDSM, or degree of forced sex is or isn't allowed
is because I don't know the answer.
[11:39] Jessica Holyoke: Was there a specific inquiry?
[11:39] Very Susanti: I suspect community outcry will be the guide
[11:39] Robin Linden: For now I would say use your heads, live by the
laws of your own jurisdiction, try not to be in other people's faces
with activities that you know might draw ciriticism in the RW
[11:40] Estella Jimenez: would like to say that forced sex is
impossible in SL you need to consent to being animated and if anyone
does something you dont like you can mute them and leave with a
teleport or logout
[11:25] Robin Linden: Let me ask you all this. When faced with an
opportunity to create a new world where things are supposed to be
better, do you think there's a place for slavery, forced sex, and the
like?
[11:25] Summer Seale: sometimes. it depends on what your kink is. =)
[11:25] otakup0pe Neumann: Robin : if that's what floats their boat, that's why there are private sims.
[11:25] Nobody Fugazi: everything here is voluntary.
[11:25] Ciaran Laval: Forced sex? No, consenting forced sex, yes
[11:26] otakup0pe Neumann: Not on the "mainland" and not "in my backyard"
[11:26] Jessica Holyoke: But that's all apart of our personalities, if
the promise is "your world, your imagination" vs. "someone else's
utopia"
[11:26] Stephen Zenith: nobody can be forced into sex here
[11:49] Nobody Fugazi: My major concern remains the lack of
transparency involved with precedents of the abuse report system as
well as allowing people recourse when they are abuse reported and may
not know.
[11:49] otakup0pe Neumann: I disagree, but yes, it needs to be made public.
[11:49] Robin Linden: extreme violence implies extreme, disgusting,
beyond-the-pale imagery, such as rotten.com-style images of violent
death, not videogame-style carnage
[11:53] Robin Linden: The more likely scenario, however, is that
Residents will join together to create local regions where they agree
on rules. In that case our role...
...
[11:54] Robin Linden: ...becomes more one of oversight. When the day
comes that the group can host their own servers, then they can do
whatever they want and answer directly to their local authorities.
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